NETFUTURE Technology and Human Responsibility -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Issue #91 A Publication of The Nature Institute June 23, 1999 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Editor: Stephen L. Talbott (stevet@netfuture.org) On the Web: http://netfuture.org You may redistribute this newsletter for noncommercial purposes. NETFUTURE is a reader-supported publication. CONTENTS --------- Editor's Note Quotes and Provocations The Negativism of NETFUTURE Grounds for Optimism Will the Internet Be Bad for Democracy? (Eli Noam) Yes, says this telecommunications analyst DEPARTMENTS Correspondence Search Globally, Buy Locally (Phil Walsh) Why I Use Amazon.com (Bryce Muir) Amazon.com's Excellent Service is Worth Supporting (Kirk McElhearn) About this newsletter ========================================================================== EDITOR'S NOTE This issue has been hung up for far too long, between my own globe-trot- ting and that of Prof. Eli Noam, whose article on the Internet and democracy is featured here. In my case, the travel was related to a brief Guest Professorship at Karl Franzens University in the extraordinarily beautiful city of Graz, Austria. The course I taught there dealt with the fragmenting social impacts of a range of modern technologies. While in Graz I also addressed the question of "Virtual Spirituality" at an international conference on "Rite, Cult, Virtuality". Some of the material from these undertakings will doubtless find its way into future issues of NETFUTURE. On the morning of July 10 I'll be speaking on technology and globalization at a conference on "The Threefold Social Order and the Challenge of Elite Globalization". The venue is New Lebanon, New York. (Contact Nancy Root at 413-528-0605 for further information.) If you're in the area, stop by! SLT Goto table of contents ========================================================================== QUOTES AND PROVOCATIONS The Negativism of NETFUTURE --------------------------- Two readers, both of them appreciative subscribers to NETFUTURE, have recently voiced concern to me about the sustained "negativism" of the newsletter, which is beginning to sound to one of them like a "nay-saying screed". This hits me at a vulnerable spot. The vulnerability needs owning up to -- and I will come back to it. But first, a little vigorous self-defense! I was puzzled to receive these two messages directly on the heels of three feature articles in successive issues (NF #88, 89, and 90), dealing with medicine, with Jane Healy's Failure to Connect, and with Amazon.com: The first of these was, as much as anything else, a plea for alternative medicine. The second reviewed a book that did it's best to find a role for the computer in education, despite mostly disastrous evidence from the field so far. Yes, Healy's assessment was rather pessimistic, but my own response to her case was to urge the consideration of concrete educational approaches that work incredibly well with students, avoid the cost of computers, and overcome the systematic one-sidedness of our culture into which computers so readily play. If that's not positive, I'm not sure what is. And the third was primarily a plug for local economics. So the problem really seems to be, not negativism in general, but the fairly consistent sorts of things I am negative about: in particular, the entire range of ways we as a society are putting digital technologies to use -- that is, the overall patterns of our use. Now, when I hear the plaintive question, "Can't you find some positive use for computers in the classroom?" my immediate, and perhaps rather too self-serving reaction is to make these points: ** Give me anything and I will find a positive use for it. Dreaming up positive uses is the simplest thing in the world. (To begin with, it's always positive to seek an understanding of something.) But finding a positive use for a particular tool is not always the urgent thing. ** In the second place, the form of the complaint looks a little suspicious. How is it that in our society questions about education have become questions about the computer? Why is the soul-vexing issue the question whether one gives proper place to the computer or not? Why do other extremely hopeful approaches to education disappear from view as issues in their own right, becoming little more than statements "for" or "against" computers? It sounds rather as if the very technologically induced distortion of issues that is the target of much venom in these columns has already been at work preparing the way for this complaint. The question staring most people in the face today seems to be "How can we make use of the computer in education?" rather than "What is the educational need here, and how can we best supply it?" That's the incredible diversionary power of the computer: we demand some sort of balanced answer regarding the computer, rather than a balanced answer regarding education. But these are very different things. Given the unbalanced social context in which education occurs -- including the acute lack of direct and meaningful engagement between child and adult mentor, between the child and the natural world, and also between the child and adult society -- it may well be that the computer's main tendency is to carry us in the opposite direction from educational balance. An example I've used before: if you've got a balance with a hundred weights on one side and five on the other, it doesn't make much sense to add fifty more weights to the heavy side while saying, "It's all right as long as we maintain balance." The claim is true, but probably not to the point. ** Third, I guess I've always assumed that readers will give due heed to the fact that I'm communicating with them over a computer network -- and have been making my living with this technology for eighteen years. Every time you or I write a message to someone with kind intent, we are doing something good with the computer. Every time someone undertakes a computer analysis of an environmental problem, or uses a computer model to predict the weather for farmers who need to plant crops, or answers an emergency health question in an online discussion group -- then good is being done. ** But, in the fourth place -- and this is the crux of the whole matter -- we need to move to a deeper level of analysis. There is also no end of good things one can do with an automobile, from buying someone a present at the mall to taking an injured person to a distant hospital. But if you lived at the beginning of the twentieth century, and if, possessed of unusual foresight, you had grave misgivings about how the automobile was beginning to restructure society, what would your message to your contemporaries have been? Certainly you would not be so malicious as to suggest it would be better to leave the injured person lying in the gutter. But if you really were addressing the deeper level rather than the obvious, you would raise questions about -- well, about an infinite range of things. How would the automobile itself contribute to overall patterns of injury and health? How would it play into our besetting tendencies to abandon community and flee ourselves? How would it help to fragment and ghetto-ize society? Depending on your own answers to such questions, you might find yourself in the uncomfortable position of saying, "Yes, quickly, get this man to the hospital", but then adding in quiet conversation afterward, "You know, the more we as a society rely on this machine with our current imbalances, the more we will, even with our good deeds, strengthen certain forces that bring pain and suffering to society". That's what I want to emphasize. If you're addressing questions at an underlying level where things and processes re-shape society, then you may find that what you have to do -- even when you're talking about immediate activities that are perfectly virtuous -- is to add an unwelcome warning to the reigning sense of virtue. And this is the level it is my whole purpose to bring attention to. ** Finally, when I am arguing a position that is not widely accepted (and I don't see much use in arguing positions of the other sort), I have usually felt obligated to engage the main counterarguments. So in this sense it's always going to look as if I'm "against" conventional views, despite the fact that the whole point is to make room "for" a non- conventional one. In this regard, I hope most readers have picked up on my dead-serious and certainly positive advocacy of such things as the value of ecological farming; the necessity for qualitative investigations (in every field) as the justification and counterbalance for our powerful urge toward abstract analysis; the grounding of all education in the experience of one human being by another; and the irreplaceable values to be had from local community. Okay, enough of that. Once I am done with the huffing and puffing, I find myself having to admit that the plaintiffs are right. I think an unhealthy negative element does creep into some of my writing. That, at least, is the rather vague intimation of my own conscience. As to where to go with the matter, I'm not yet sure. I'll certainly continue to do my best to puncture the nonsense surrounding so much of the contemporary technological thrust; but perhaps, over time, you will notice a little bit of a shifting balance and emphasis. In any case, it seemed right to acknowledge a legitimacy to my correspondents' case. And, as a kind of temporary penance, I offer the article, "Grounds for Optimism", that follows this one. But please don't hold me responsible for Eli Noam's essay in this issue! (And do note that, despite his title, his piece can more usefully be read as an argument for a deeper understanding of democracy rather than as an argument against the Internet.) Grounds for Optimism -------------------- Several months ago, at a moment when I was wallowing in pessimistic reflection upon current events, I started to make a list. I dedicated one of the 3x5 cards I carry around in my shirt pocket to the proposition that some powerfully good trends must be developing in society, and that I have, by temperament, allowed myself to discount them. Well, that list is now four items long. These are no small items. Taken together, they are almost enough to make me as optimistic about our future as the extropians and transhumanists! Here they are: ** Environmental movement. When I was young this didn't exist. There was no pollution-control industry, and the public had not yet heard about ecology. Anyone who pushed recycling would have been a flake. It is interesting to watch how attitudes can change, and how we eventually become aware of a moral unconsciousness in ourselves that is, after the fact, hard to fathom. Think, for example, of the genuine indignation and incomprehension once provoked by the request, "Would you mind not smoking?" It simply didn't occur to society as a whole that the noxious effect of smoke upon unwilling participants posed ethical problems we should address. Yet today who would think otherwise? ** Organic agriculture and retailing. This, too, could hardly have been foreseen when I was young. Even in my days as an organic farmer (late 1970s), the organic movement, such as it was, was dominated by hippies and other drop-outs. Yet, sneer at them as we might (I did some of my own sneering), they performed a heroic service upon which societies periodically depend for survival: they planted a seed, thereby providing an alternative that could be taken over by the rest of society when the reigning models proved destructive beyond bearing any longer. We certainly haven't yet "arrived" in organic terms. But the progress is gratifying at a time when mainline supermarkets and large-scale commercial farms are discovering the virtues of what once was despised. ** Alternative medicine. I wrote at length about this in NF #88. As I mentioned there, Americans now visit alternative medical practitioners more often than conventional therapists, and they spend more money out of pocket on alternative treatments than conventional ones -- this despite the seemingly invincible power and aura of authority of the medical establishment. What is it that wakens in the once-deferential public? ** Alternative schooling. This sign is, for me, hopeful above all the others. So long as the young are trapped upon the training grounds of the old regime, how can new life be released? But now millions of parents have voted against the idea of politically mandated indoctrination by denying their children to the institutions of indoctrination. They reject the notion that politicians should be empowered to enforce a kind of lowest-common-denominator curriculum that offends no one -- which inevitably turns out to offend everyone except the dullest-spirited. The proper way to avoid offending anyone when it comes to the highest stirrings of the human spirit -- which are, after all, what education should give wings to -- is to honor so far as possible the freedom to strive in all its incomprehensible diversity. The necessity for this freedom is, I think, what we see at work in the apparently irresistible movement toward a voucher system of some sort, in the dramatically successful home schooling movement, and in the public school system's grudging tolerance of various local, voluntary, experimental schools. --------------------- So there are grounds for optimism, and I for one plan to keep them in sight. Something is afoot, and recognizing the seeds of the future is at least as important as identifying the rot and decay within which (and, perhaps only within which) the seeds can take root. SLT Goto table of contents ========================================================================== WILL THE INTERNET BE BAD FOR DEMOCRACY? Eli M. Noam (noam@columbia.edu) [NETFUTURE reader Eli Noam is professor of finance and economics at Columbia University. He is also director of the Columbia Institute for Tele-Information at the university's Graduate School of Business and a former Public Service Commissioner for the State of New York. This article is an abridged version of a paper he read at the Heinz Nixdorf Computer Museum Forum, Paderborn, Germany, in May, 1999. SLT] --------------------- Controversies abound on most aspects of the Internet. Yet when it comes to its impact on the democratic process, the answer seems unanimous. The Internet is good for democracy. It creates digital citizens (Wired, 1997) active in the vibrant teledemocracy (Etzioni, 1997) of the Electronic Republic (Grossman, 1995) in the Digital Nation (Katz, 1992). Is there no other side to this question? Is the answer so positively positive? The reasons why the Internet is supposed to strengthen democracy include the following. * The Internet lowers the entry barriers to political participation. * It strengthens political dialogue. * It creates community. * It cannot be controlled by government. * It increases voting participation. * It permits closer communication with officials. * It spreads democracy world-wide. My skepticism about the Internet as a pro-democracy force is not based on its uneven distribution. This will solve itself soon, in rich countries. It is more systemic. The problem is that most analysts commit a so-called error of composition. That is, they confuse micro behavior with macro results. They think that if something is helpful to an individual, it is also helpful to society at large, when everybody uses it. Suppose we had asked, a century ago, whether the automobile would reduce pollution. The answer would have been easy and positive: no horses, no waste on the roads, no smell, no use of agricultural land to grow oats. But we now recognize that in the aggregate, mass motorization has been bad for the environment. It created emissions, dispersed the population, and put more demand on land. The second error is that of inference. Just because the Internet is good for democracy in places like North Korea, Iran, or Sudan does not mean that it is better for Germany, Denmark, or the United States. Just because three TV channels offer more diversity of information than one does not mean that 30,000 are better than 300. So here are several reasons why the Internet will not be good for democracy, corresponding to the pro-democracy arguments described above. The Internet will make politics more expensive and raise entry barriers ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The hope has been that online public space will be an electronic version of a New England or Swiss town meeting, open and ongoing. The Internet will permit easy and cheap political participation and political campaigns. But is that true? Easy entry exists indeed for an Internet based on narrowband transmission, which is largely text-based. But the emerging broadband Internet will permit fancy video and multimedia information resources. Inevitably, audience expectations will rise. When everyone can speak, who will be listened to? If the history of mass media means anything, it will not be everyone. It cannot be everyone. Nor will the wisest or those with the most compelling case or cause be heard, but the best produced and the best promoted. And that is expensive. Secondly, because of the increasing glut and clutter of information, those with messages will have to devise strategies to draw attention. Political attention, just like commercial attention, will have to be created. Ideology, self-interest, and public spirit are some factors. But in many cases, attention needs to be bought, by providing entertainment, gifts, games, lotteries, coupons, and so on. That, too, is expensive. The basic cost of information is rarely the problem in politics; it's the packaging and distribution. Thirdly, effective politics on the Internet will require elaborate and costly data collection. The reason is that Internet media operate differently from traditional mass media. They will not broadcast to all but instead to specifically targeted individuals. Instead of the broad stroke of political TV messages, "netcasted" politics will be customized to be most effective. This requires extensive information about individuals' interests and preferences. Data banks then become a key to political effectiveness. Who would own and operate them? In some cases the political parties. But they could not maintain control over the data banks in the case of primary elections that are open to many candidates. There is also a privacy problem, when semi-official political parties store information about the views, fears, and habits of millions of individuals. For both of those reasons the ability of parties to collect such data will be limited. Other political data banks will be operated by advocacy and interest groups. They would then donate data to the candidate instead of money. The importance of such data banks would further weaken campaign finance laws and further strengthen interest group pluralism over traditional political parties. But in particular, political data banks will be maintained through private companies that are now known as political consultants. They will establish permanent, proprietary data banks and become still bigger players in the political environment and operate increasingly as ideology- free, for-profit consultancies. Even if the use of the Internet makes some political activity cheaper, it does so for everyone, which means that all organizations will increase their activities rather than spend less on them. Thus, any effectiveness of early adopters will soon be matched by their rivals and will simply lead to an accelerated, expensive, and mutually canceling political arms- race of investment in activist techniques and new-media marketing technologies. The early users of the Internet experienced a gain in their effectiveness, and now they incorrectly extrapolate this to society at large. While such gain is trumpeted as the empowerment of the individual over Big Government and Big Business, much of it has simply been a relative strengthening of individuals and groups with computer and online skills (who usually have significantly above-average income and education) and a relative weakening of those without such resources. Government did not become more responsive due to online users; it just became more responsive to them. The Internet will make reasoned political dialog more difficult --------------------------------------------------------------- True, the Internet is a more active and interactive medium than TV. But is its use in politics a promise or a reality? Just because the quantity of information increases does not mean that its quality rises. To the contrary. As the Internet leads to more information clutter, it will become necessary for any message to get louder. Political information becomes distorted, shrill, and simplistic. One of the characteristics of the Internet is disintermediation. In politics, this leads to the decline of traditional news media and their screening techniques. The acceleration of the news cycle by necessity leads to less careful checking, while competition leads to more sensationalism. Issues get attention if they are visually arresting and easily understood. This leads to media events, to the fifteen minutes of fame, to the sound bite, to infotainment. The Internet also permits anonymity, which leads to last-minute political ambush. The Internet lends itself to dirty politics more than the more accountable TV. While the self-image of the tolerant digital citizen persists, empirical studies of the content of several political usenet groups found much intolerant behavior: domineering by a few, rude "flaming", and reliance on unsupported assertions. The Internet disconnects as much as it connects ----------------------------------------------- Democracy has historically been based on community. Traditionally, such communities were territorial -- electoral districts, states, and towns. "Community", "communicate" -- the terms are related: community is shaped by the ability of its members to communicate with each other. If the underlying communications system changes, the communities are affected. As one connects in new ways, one also disconnects the old ways. As the Internet links with new and far-away people, it also reduces relations with neighbors and neighborhoods. The long-term impact of cheap and convenient communication is a further geographic dispersal of the population and thus greater physical isolation. At the same time, the enormous increase in the number of information channels leads to an individualization of mass media, and to fragmentation. On the other hand, the Internet also creates electronically linked new types of community. But these are different from traditional communities. They have less of the averaging that characterizes physical communities -- throwing together the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker. Instead, these new communities are more stratified along some common dimension, such as business, politics, or hobbies. These groups will therefore tend to be issue-driven, more narrow-minded, and sometimes more extreme, as like-minded people reinforce each other's views. Furthermore, many of these communities will be owned by someone. They are like a shopping mall, a gated community, with private rights to expel, to promote, and to censor. The creation of community has been perhaps the main asset of Internet portals such as AOL. It is unlikely that they will dilute the value of this asset by relinquishing control. If it is easy to join such virtual communities, it also becomes easy to leave, in a civic sense, one's physical community. Community becomes a browsing experience. Information does not necessarily weaken the state ------------------------------------------------- Can the Internet reduce totalitarianism? Of course. Tyranny and mind control become harder. But Internet romantics tend to underestimate the ability of governments to control the Internet, to restrict it, and indeed to use it as an instrument of surveillance. How quickly we forget. Only a few years ago, the image of information technology was Big Brother and mind control. That was extreme, of course, but the surveillance potential clearly exists. Cookies can monitor usage. Wireless applications create locational fixes. Identification requirements permit the creation of composites of peoples' public and private activities and interests. Newsgroups can (and are) monitored by those with stakes in an issue. Free access to information is helpful to democracy. But the value of information to democracy tends to get overblown. It may be a necessary condition, but not a sufficient one. Civil war situations are not typically based on a lack of information. Yet there is an undying belief that if people "only knew", for example, by logging online, they would become more tolerant of each other. That is a wishful and optimistic hope, but is it based on history? Hitler came to power in a republic where political information and communication were plentiful. Democracy requires stability, and stability requires a bit of inertia. The most stable democracies are characterized by a certain slowness of change. Examples are Switzerland and England. The U.S. operates on the basis of a 210-year-old Constitution. Hence the acceleration of politics caused by the Internet is a two-edged sword. Electronic voting does not strengthen democracy ----------------------------------------------- The Internet enables electronic voting and hence may increase voter turnout. But it also changes democracy from a representative model to one of direct democracy. Direct democracy puts a premium on resources of mobilization, favoring money and organization. It disintermediates elected representatives. It favors sensationalized issues over "boring" ones. Almost by definition, it limits the ability to make unpopular decisions. It makes harder the building of political coalition. The arguments against direct democracy were made perhaps most eloquently in the classic arguments for the adoption of the U.S. Constitution by James Madison in the Federalist Papers #10. Electronic voting is not simply the same as traditional voting without the inconvenience of waiting in line. When voting becomes like channel clicking a remote control, it is left with little of the civic engagement of voting. When voting becomes indistinguishable from a poll, polling and voting merge. With the greater ease and anonymity of voting, a market for votes is unavoidable. Participation declines if people know the expected result too early, or where the legitimacy of the entire election is in question. Direct access to public officials will be phony ----------------------------------------------- Yes, anybody can fire off email messages to public officials and perhaps even get a reply, and this provides an illusion of access. But the limited resource will still be scarce: the attention of those officials. By necessity, only a few messages will get through. Replies are canned, like answering machines. If anything, the greater flood of messages will make gatekeepers more important than ever: power brokers who can provide access to officials. As demand increases while the supply is static, the price of access goes up, as does the commission to the middle-man. This does not help the democratic process. Indeed, public opinion can be manufactured. Email campaigns can substitute technology and organization for people. Instead of grass roots one can create what has been described as "Astroturf", that is, manufactured expression of public opinion. Ironically, the most effective means of communication (outside of a bank check) becomes the lowest-tech: the handwritten letter. If, in the words of a famous cartoon, on the Internet nobody knows that you are a dog, then everyone may be treated as one. The Internet facilitates international manipulation of domestic politics ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cross-border interference in national politics becomes easier with the Internet. Why negotiate with the U.S. ambassador if one can target a key Congressional chairman by an email campaign, chat group interventions, misinformation, and untraceable donations. People have started to worry about computer attacks by terrorists. They should worry more about state- sponsored interference in other countries' electronic politics. Indeed, it is increasingly difficult to conduct national politics in a globalized world where distance and borders are less important than in the past, even if one does not share Negroponte's hyperbole of the "evaporation" of the nation state. The difficulty of societies to control their own affairs leads, inevitably, to backlash and regulatory intervention. Conclusion ---------- It is easy to romanticize the past of democracy as Athenian debates in front of an involved citizenry, and to believe that its return by electronic means is nigh. A quick look in the rear-view mirror at radio and then TV is sobering. Here, too, the new media were heralded as harbingers of a new and improved political dialogue. But the reality of those media has been one of cacophony, fragmentation, increasing cost, and declining value of "hard" information. The Internet makes it easier to gather and assemble information, to deliberate and to express oneself, and to organize and coordinate action. The Internet can mobilize hard-to-reach groups, and it has unleashed much energy and creativity. Obviously there will be some shining success stories. But it would be naive to cling to the image of the early Internet -- nonprofit, cooperative, and free -- and ignore that it is becoming a commercial medium, like commercial broadcasting that replaced amateur ham radio. If anything, the Internet will lead to less stability, more fragmentation, less ability to fashion consensus, more interest-group pluralism. High-capacity computers connected to high-speed networks are no remedies for flaws in a political system. There is no quick techno- fix. The Internet does not create a Jeffersonian democracy. It will not revive Tocqueville's Jacksonian America. It is not Lincoln-Douglas. It is not Athens, nor Appenzell. It is less of a democracy than those low-tech places. But, of course, none of these places really existed either, except as a goal, a concept, an inspiration. And in that sense, the hopes vested in the Internet are a new link in a chain of hope. Maybe naive, but certainly ennobling. Goto table of contents ========================================================================== CORRESPONDENCE Search Globally, Buy Locally ---------------------------- Response to: "Why I Never Buy Books from Amazon.com" (NF-90) From: Phil Walsh (philw@microware.com) Steve, A practice I have been using is to shop online, but buy locally. For instance, I may use Amazon's search engine to look for books on a particular topic or by a certain author. After I've figured out what I want, I call a local independent bookstore, and have them order the book for me. They are glad to do special orders, and they have the book shipped directly to my house. I suppose if enough of us started doing this, the online booksellers would want to charge for using their search engine, much as many credit card companies now consider you a "freeloader" if you never carry a balance forward, and actually try to penalize you for it. Phil Why I Use Amazon.com -------------------- Response to: "Why I Never Buy Books from Amazon.com" (NF-90) From: Bryce Muir (pegbryce@gwi.net) Amazon is a marvelous index of available books, and worth using for that alone. I have very personal connections to two local booksellers. One carrying new books, the other used. At the first I have a standing discount in return for my steady business and long friendship. At the other I have a virtually unlimited credit due to a commission sculpture I made for the owners. I wouldn't dream of ignoring the "gift" economy connected to these stores, and the socio-ecological connections doing business there entails. Their health and survival is vital to my community. That doesn't stop me from shopping at the chain bookstores and Amazon. For one thing, local booksellers are niche marketers, and sometimes I want something out of their niche. Secondly, the vast inventories available at mass market vendors is a window on the wider culture, and a rich field to browse in. So I use a mixed strategy. I regularly browse my local stores as part of my social round, but I also cruise mass market stores and search topics at Amazon. Sometimes I write down the names of books I find at the big stores, and order it through my local, or check it out of the library. Other times I will buy a book directly from the mass source, for various reasons: because I want a specific gift overnight, because it's a mass market potboiler vs. a book my local would find worth carrying, and to keep the alternate service available. I believe we should use our dollars to encourage the kind of economy we desire. I want BOTH a personal, local, economic network, AND a global marketplace. I don't believe the choice is either/or. The ideal of only using local markets is just as fanciful as the notion of a free universal marketplace. If I were to depend on what my local booksellers choose to sell I'd read lots of poetry, but I'd never be able to find books for my brother the mathematician. I'm willing to give some business to Amazon to preserve that diversity. I've lived at the mercy of monopoly vendors on remote islands, and the dream of the perfect local economy is just that. Your plaint about the atomization of goods and services, and the resulting dehumanization, could be said about dollars and cents. In fact it has been since the invention of a common currency. The separation of value from material goods is nothing new. A dollar has no heart, and is the ultimate atom of economic activity. That hasn't stopped us from applying morality and ethics to our dollar transactions. When we're mindful. There is some indication that the very atomization and globalization of goods and services you disapprove of is engendering a counter-current of localism and individualism, as the profitabilty of niche markets is enhanced. Here's a local example. Some of my neighbors have become enthusiastic players on E-Bay. Their expectations were that they would sell local treasures to a national market and make big money. What has in fact happened is they are selling their findings to a regional market, and they often deal face-to-face with their customers. Rather than trusting some distant stranger, they wheel and deal within hail, after making the connection via the web. They are also haunting the yard sales, and that down home economy is thriving. What E-Bay seems to have done in this province is stimulate and accelerate what is basically a local alternate cash economy. Hardly dehumanizing. I've had a similar internet experience. Last October I began posting a personal journal to a web site (www.brycemuir.com .. "Journal of a Local Artist.") I expected that broadcasting an illustrated version of what had been a private e-mail chronicle of life in a small town would turn this place into a global village. People from all over could tune in on a Maine town, and smell the balsam. What actually happened is that my neighbors heard about it by word-of-mouth, and now the site functions more as a local newspaper than as a destination resort for strangers. I'd thought the internet would dissolve local boundaries, instead it has enhanced our localism. The web is weaving us together in a new way. Beware academic generalizations about big systems until you've checked on what the locals are actually doing. Bryce Amazon.com's Excellent Service is Worth Supporting -------------------------------------------------- Response to: "Why I Never Buy Books from Amazon.com" (NF-90) From: Kirk McElhearn (kirk@mcelhearn.com) Steve, I appreciate your comments on amazon.com, and your comparison with farmers' markets, but I beg to differ... :-) While you can buy your eggs and broccoli from many different sources, and still get eggs or broccoli, the same is not true for books. Books are, by their nature, a monopolistic product. They contain "intellectual property" and, with the exception of public domain texts, can only be sold by the publisher that the author has contracted with. Now these monopolistic products can be bought in many ways: from bookstores, naturally, but also from amazon.com or other online booksellers, from catalogs, or even directly from the publishers. People have traditionally chosen to buy books from bookstores, for the simple reason that they were more or less the only places you could buy them, but recently, other sources have become popular. Now I have been working in and around the publishing business for 20 years -- as a small press publisher, editor of a journal, bookseller (for 3 years, here in France; and as a student in New York, and now as a translator). I have seen the book business from many different angles. When I first started working in a bookstore, I had wanted to learn the trade and open a bookstore myself. I quickly discovered that selling books is not such a romantic job as I had thought, and the pressure from publishers to sell the books they wanted was too great to be able to really make a living selling the books I wanted. This is true here in France, but also in the US, and probably in most countries. In short, the job is stifling and the work is generally ungratifying. Trying to make a living selling just "good" books is very difficult. I am also a faithful customer of amazon.com. I may be a special case, living overseas, and not having easy access to books in English, but having been a bookseller I am not inclined to buy only for low prices. You see, I keep on buying from amazon.com for one simple reason -- they have excellent customer service. While I have ordered from other on-line booksellers, their customer service has been execrable. Amazon.com has always replied quickly and efficiently to all my questions, a bit like a bookstore. And they have gotten me books that bookstores have claimed impossible to find.... Not only do they have good customer service, but they let their customers express their opinions on books, which have sometimes dissuaded me from purchasing, and sometimes convinced me to buy other books. You need to remember that community economics just does not exist with books, it cannot because of their monopolistic nature. While the old corner bookstore is nice, there is (unfortunately) little future in it, for reasons that existed before amazon.com. Sorry if all this is a bit disjointed, but I think your reasoning is just a bit off target for once. Kirk -- kirk@mcelhearn.com http://www.mcelhearn.com Kirk McElhearn | 91 rue de la Mesangerie | 37540 St Cyr sur Loire | France Goto table of contents ========================================================================== ABOUT THIS NEWSLETTER Copyright 1999 by The Nature Institute. You may redistribute this newsletter for noncommercial purposes. 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